Chinese Boxing Encounter Philosophy

The Chinese Boxing Encounter is built on a decision of choosing the best probability for success.  The decision is that one should choose a method which will pick a moment to commit to go into the opponent and get close for a finish often manipulating weak areas of the opponent’s body that even the strong can not defend.  The other option usually rejected by CBII is the hit and run method or the hit until the fight is over method.  We are definitely not against hitting.  As we enter we can hit and during the finish there may me hits, but hit and run philosophy loses to the faster and strong hitters the highest percent of the time.
 
In figuring percentages it is a tricky process.  First of all there is a general truth that the better athlete/fighter will win the fight over the lessor athlete/fighter regardless of the strategy.  This seems to be true most of the time in the hit and run or hit until finish method.  In the Commitment to finish method still often the better athlete/fighter will win, but there is a greater chance of overcoming the greater power and speed by a smart method of getting inside the hitter and attacking the weak areas for control.  Those of you who are involved in this process understand but these comments are for the outsider to just consider the strategy.
 
In developing the Chinese Boxing Method many obstacles stand in the way.  First the smaller person is usually not excited about commitment to move in close to the opponent to capture.  The smaller person will have obstacles to conquer here, but I believe still increase his/her chances.  We are not talking about a self-defense situation, but we are referring to a fight between two skill fighters empty hand without the help of weapons etc.
 
Another obstacle are the interruptions and obstacles that occur during the forward pressure or closing stage of the fight and finish.  As one reaches close to the opponent and is about t0 seize a vulnerable area or part of the opponent’s body, many last moment deflections and movements occur which an opponent in panic or otherwise will attempt to keep from being captured at an ending movement.  The point of the encounter that we are focusing on is occurring while one is gaining distance on the opponent.  This forward pressure point is building so touch at this point is not usually developed in traditional chi sao or push hands exercises and training.  The body’s flexibility and softening is essential to produce the need moves so that one will not lose the advantage achieved in gaining distance to get close and capture the opponent.  There will be variations to this as tall and short plays a role but to conquer this point of the fight is critical and is the topic for the Weat Coast CBII group that is coming to study this weekend.  Little to nothing is written about this area of combat because the forward pressure is not used very much except by grapplers who are coming in many times for a different type of finish.
 
Again, one can incorporate hitting into this method and we are not endorsing a “non striking method”.
 

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The Pizza Burn Observations

Those who have been around Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang know that he corrects and fixes postures hands on.  Sometimes he will tell the student that he has fixed them in a soup or spaghetti level which indicates lower intensities.
I have observed on occasion that while he is correcting someone with pizza (a highly intense stance) that he has pushed the person while holding on to them forward where pressure increases forward into the knee and the students foot comes off the ground.  If he were not holding them they would fall forward.  He is not lifting them at all as the intensity is fully on their leg.  Now it was a bit curious that sometimes he would do this and push a person out of proper position in order to achieve the “pizza” intensity.
I think that when Master Chen corrects postures he often will get the person into the general position and then he will try and make adjustment that will relax the person’s energy downward.  I have seen a few instances where students would be in a nice lower stance and he corrected them and they would hold the posture for a long time.  Knowing some of these students, I knew that they were not really in “pizza” or rather, they were not focusing their relaxation in one spot on the weight bearing leg.  Their legs were strong, but their bodies had not learned to hold the weight of their body fully on their legs and specifically on one spot.  I have seen this happen with some students and then one day as they learned more about how to relax their body, they suddenly began to burn out their leg.  They never could do this before because they did not know what it meant to fully relax their weight downward.
So my conclusion from watching this occasional event in which Master Chen will push a person into a strange position in order to achieve pizza, is that he understands that this person cannot let their weight drop yet and so in order for them to burn out he gets them in a position that does not require their participation in relaxation but simply isolates the leg to land the weight in a position the student is not use to bearing the weight.  This is only my speculation as I am not in his mind, but he is too exact to not notice the position he has pushed them to.  Anyone else notice this?
 

Something a little Different

Artistic package of Shaolin Long Fist, music and chi pulses.

New Promo for CBII Internal Martial Arts DVD Series

Articles on Realistic martial arts vs Events such as the MMA “no holds barred”

Two articles that one of our members shared with me are an interesting read.  I may not agree with every point, but the articles are well written and lay out a case for the difference in realistic fighting and the so called “no holds bar” events such as MMA.  Check it out.http://tinyurl.com/3dc3c38 and http://tinyurl.com/45yjurw

Chen Xiaowang 1984

More older films from China.  This is a lengthy clip, but if you are interested in Chen Xiaowang he will be the second performer.  He is doing some Xinjia and it is always nice to compare the then and now.

Chen Xiaowang 1985

Chen Xiaowang in 1985 doing some Xinjia and Laojia Paocui and some Push Hands with Chen Zhenglei

 

Documentary

A documentary on youtube comes from China and is one historians take on the internal martial art development.  I have a hunch there are other historians and I assume Chen Family members that would not concur with much of this history of Taiji.

Update on Chen Master Visits to CBII

Master Chen Xiaowang will be visiting South Florida and CBII on October 12-16.

Dates for Chen Bing will be determined around March and usually is scheduled around June. Stay tuned.


Chen Xiaowang (19th Generation Chen Grandmaster)


Chen Bing (20th Generation Chen Master)


New Apparatus for Pakua?

Some Pakua uses a ring such as this one except the size of a hula hoop.  It is covered in leather and taped.  It is used while doing the form, used for chin na vising and used for bouncing and pounding for a golden bell training.  Watching this exhibition certainly reminds one of the Pakua training. Click on wheel number below to see video.

wheel number from E and M-P on Vimeo.

Chen Xiaowang Seminar October 6-10

Brochure is ready for the October 6-10 GM Chen Xiaowang Seminar in Miami Shores, Miami.  Go to chineseboxing.com to check out the brochure.

Chen Bing

Chen Bing has a nice video promo done by zerowoods at Vimeo. We just had Chen Bing in TN, GA, and FL for tow weeks in June. He is a great Chen Style practitioner and Teacher. He has his own school in Chen Village in Henan Province where one can go and study. Check out our recent photos of the seminars on chineseboxing.com. Click the link Taiji Chen Bing below to view this well done clip.


Taiji Chen Bing from zerowoods on Vimeo.


Chen Xiaowang Tribute

Another Chen Xiaowang tribute on youtube.


Recent Chen Xiaowang Youtube Clip

Various groups put together nice clips of Chen Xiaowang and his many activities. Here is a pretty good one.


Vanderbilt Tai Chi Symposium 2009

Last week, Vanderbilt University hosted a Tai Chi Symposium. It drew around 500 or so participants over the week. CBII had four in attendance as Joe Rea Phillips, Earl Morgan, Maxie Green, and Mark Yates enjoyed watching the demos and participating in the many of the classes that were offered.

Chen Zhenglei represented the Chen Style, Yang Zhenduo (grandson of Yang Chenfu) represented the Yang Style, Wu Wenhan represented the Wu (Hao Style), Ma Hallong represented the other Wu Style and Sun Yongtlan represented the Sun Style. You may want to go to the web page to check out what it was about… http://www.taichisymposium.com/


Chen Xiaowang Seminar Details

Master Chen Xiaowang’s Seminar in South Florida and all its details can be viewed by clicking here.



New Film on Chen Village

Jon Braeley who we met last year at our seminar in South Florida with Chen Xiaowang has done a new film about Chen Village. Here is the trailor below.


Chen Bing Seminar

South Florida CBII and Open Gate School just completed hosting Chen Bing, 20th Genereation Chen Family Tai Chi Chuan. Master Chen lives in Chenjiaguo and travels several months out of the year to the US, Europe and Asia spreading Chen Family Tai Chi. We just completed a week which climaxed with a seminar on Laojia Applicationa and Push Hands Application. Below is a pictorial of a few of the moments.


Chen Zhao pei Article written by son Chen Ke Sen

Interesting article written by Chen Ke Sen

http://www.taiji-bg.com/articles/taijiquan/t48.htm


Yang Style Tai Chi Studies

I have put some links below that should be interesting for those who practice Yang Tai Chi. They involve contrasting some of the different Yang methods.

Comparative Study of Yang Style

Posture Study Comparisons

 

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